Java based site

Triumvirate · Posted: 4/28/2004, 6:42 pm Post subject: Java based site

I recently enrolled in a Java class (that's unimportant but I'll state it anyway) and I know that what I want to do with my site I'll be able to do using java. The only reason I am holding back from doing so is because I had a few questions. First of all, as many of my users have dial-up connections I wanted to know if Java applications and applets take a long time to load for people using dial-up, and will this be a deterrent (or would it be to you?) Also I was wondering in regards to my sites bandwidth, do java apps tend to be bandwidth hogs? Or do they not really increase bandwidth consumption at all?

Thanks.
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Paul · Posted: 4/29/2004, 11:34 am Post subject:

I wouldnt think java applets would be too bad in terms of bandwidth (though I have no experience of that) However they really would put me off a site if overused - they take much longer to load than an HTML page, require a JVM - which not everyone has and generally become annoying.

Having said that, it also depends what they are used for, sometimes they are a nessecary evil. What did you want to use them for?
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Triumvirate · Posted: 4/29/2004, 12:53 pm Post subject:

I am going to use it to allow me to more easily manage my site. Basically it will be, what I am calling, an RPG Management System. It will allow people to update their own stats and levels as they gain them, also it will update the skills and such that they learn etc. This will allow me to focus more of my time on adding new, fresh content rather than updating people as they add points to their stats.

However, I can also write it in PHP (I will have to struggle through it as I am not that fluent in PHP but I can manage to do it). But, with PHP I won't have as much of a 'shiny' factor as I would with Java. But, for the sake of loading speed it may be more beneficial to use PHP in the long run rather than add a few special little features and use Java.
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Paul · Posted: 4/29/2004, 10:12 pm Post subject:

I would go for PHP personally, I would be much more comfertable using it as a user. However if you want to use Java, you could look into servlets - its like using PHP, you make pages that the server "runs" and sends the output HTML - but its in java Smile

I've never used them, and you will have a much harder time finding a host to host them, but its something to bear in mind!
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Triumvirate · Posted: 4/30/2004, 3:18 pm Post subject:

Thanks, I'll look into that, I probably will write it in php and maybe just have a few little things in Java. Most of my users have dial-up, so the more I think about it the better it would be to write in php over Java. Thank for all the suggestions.
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Hartmann · Posted: 5/13/2004, 3:42 pm Post subject:

If you want, just to get some experience you could write an interface to your PHP generated information using Java. Use Swing and AWT to create a nice GUI for the user to view their stats and stuff.

That will allow you to mix it up and get more experience in two technologies, instead of just one.
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Matt · Posted: 5/17/2004, 3:19 am Post subject:

Saying that, there is also the JSP alternative, they are server side pages written in java...
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quentin · Posted: 7/20/2004, 11:43 am Post subject: